weeke bp15 homatic 2000

[miu2001]

Hi there, I've got a question, how to copy and save programs to the machine? My floppy disc is damaged. I see there is the RS232 port and ethernet card on the front of the processer. Do you have any informations, maybe software that will be work with those ports? I heard about ARCNET software, do you have it?
Please help me if you only can. Here's my email miu2001(at)interia.pl.

 

[carsten]

Hello

we also have an old Weeke BP15 with Arcnet installed (ethernet) . But I can't help you with the software, it was installed by an IT-specialist.
But why don't you change the damaged floppydrive.

 

[miu2001]

I heard about floppy drives, they must be the same like from manufacturer. I don't know where to look for. What about typical pc floppy drive will it work with bp 15?

I need to find out how to save and copy programs to the machine because we make difficult elements. And it's impossible to make program from the homatic 2000. I have AlphaCam with the postprocesser and going to use it. Do you have any experience?

 

[carsten]

Hello

I heard that the monitor is something special so it might be the same with the floppy drive. But floppy drives aren't so expensive, so I would just try. There are usually two cabels one fpr data and the other for power. They were all the same in every PC I looked in, so you can't make any mistake in changing the floppy drive.
You can also try to contact WEEKE. There is a good service team and there are stil some cracks even for those old BP15 machines.
We also use AlphaCAM but I am not so firm in. Unfortunately our boss is not very helpful.
But there are still al lot of BP15 in working progress so I think there will be a good chance to find someone who can help you more than I can do.

 

[miu2001]

I just blow up with the compressed air and IT WORKS. My drive still live I've copied some of the data placed in the PRG folder and what now? I need to read that files in Win XP but windows says: The Disc Was Not Formatted, Shall I Do It? I know the structure of files in OS 9/68k isn' t t the same like windows. What kind of software I need to read OS 9 format files? And what does it look like with running programs with AlphaCam? How to convert files between those systems?

 

[dascello]

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Ich kann zwar ganz gut Englisch, aber: Worum geht es hier?????

 

[stefan k.]

So wie ich das mit rudimentären Englischkenntnissen verstanden hab, unter anderem um ein defektes Diskettenlaufwerk einer CNC Maschine.

VG, Stefan

 

[carsten]

Hello

nice to read that you have one problem less.
We have a PC between the CNC PC and our rest PC network. They are connected by arcnet. This PC runs under DOS and is connected to the rest by a novell network. Alphacam only runs on a Win 2000 PC at a working desk in the office.
As far as I know BP 15 run under a UNIX OS. It was quite usually in industrial PC's because it's code is open and could easyly by customized. BUT DON'T format the disk. I Think it will cause a lot of problems.
Connecting an old CNC System to newer IT is not so easy.
First of all you should see that the CNC runs well with the PC installed at the CNC.
Weeke and Homag CNC are usually programmed with the homag woodwop programm. BP 15 was as far as I know delivered with woodwop 2.5 running under DOS. A lot of BP 15'th were updated to 4.5 ( running under WIN 95 and later versions). Which Version is installed by your BP 15 ?
The rest is more or less a special software problem. You should look for real IT crack.
For using alphacam with the BP 15 you need to tell alpacam some parameters about your BP 15. For further information it couldn't be a mistake to contact alphacam. Licom Systems GmbH, Homepage it's in German but perhaps they can help you. Just try to contact in English. I had several times contact with them at exhibitions like Ligna. They were very polite .
Or try the internatinal site at Planit. There seems to be a alphacam forum
Or just ask here at woodworker.
Perhaps there are some other users who can help.

 

[miu2001]

My Bp15 doesn't have the Wood Wop software. I just wonder how this is... There's a VARI2000 program in the menu that I can use to make some programs to do, but there's no Wood Wop. What now?

 

[Jono]

Hello,

Iagree with Carsten, do not format the disk! All you will get is an empty Disk under WinXP and an unaccessable disk on the BP15. The easyest way to access the disk under Windows should be some kind of an driver that is able translate the information stored on the Disk. It can be a suitable way, but if you have to change your Programms very often you will soon become a "diskjockey".
Homag/Weeke should know what fits best in your case, even if its a bit more expensive than other solutions would be.

I googled a bit and found a few links witch could help you to access the disks under Windows.
Access OS-9, OS-9000, and NON PC disk on Windows PC
Acute Systems web site
HFS utilities for DOS, Windows and OS/2

I hope that helps
Jono

 

[miu2001]

Thank you guys you are very helpful for me. Nice to have support of friends abroad.
I found the option in machine's menu that convert between the DOS and OS9 format and it works I have to say. I saved one program named 11.mpr itno the directory A1/MPR/ on floppy and that OS9 could read. The OS9 can find the program and copy to. But there are two formats of files placed in OS9 hard drive. First is placed by the directory of MPR, second is PRG. What they do?
My AlphaCam has a standard postprocessor for the BP15, but my machine is equipped with two C axes. First axe C1 is attributed for horizontal boring with 4 spindles, but one of them may be used as horizontal router with the change of RPM, second is C2 - cutting saw. Where from get the postprocessor for AC that would serve theese axes? Do you have any ideas? Meybe you have the one and want to share it? I would be for life grateful. There's my email on the top of the beginning this post.

 

[carsten]

Hello

you see me really astonished. Just today I had a discussion with a friend at work if there might be any second BP15 3S. THE "S" means Sonderbau. Our BP15 has also 2 C axes called C and C5. C is a 360 ° grooving saw and C5 is 360° 4 headed horizontally drilling and routing unit.
I will have a further look at our BP 15. Especially at the Starting Menue.
How old is your BP 15 (year of manufacture)?

 

[miu2001]

Nice really nice. I thought that my machine is the true unique invention of Weeke. I do really not know anybody who has the BP 15 3s. My machine has the same C axes C1 and C5. Machine was built in 1992. But there's no Wood Wop in the system. I can write the NC programs with tool VARI2000 in main menu. Like I said want to run programs from Alpha Cam. How can I do it? If you want I'll send you some photos of my machine, menu and what you want to compare our machines.

 

[carsten]

Hello

sorry that I did not answer yesterday. I will not have the chance to have a look at our BP 15 till monday. My doctor gave me the order to stay at home
OK he is right. I did not feel well yesterday and even today.
Our's was built in 1992 too. So I think these both BP 15 won't be so different.
Woodwop runs on the other PC which is connected by arcnet to the built in PC.
We use this PC to do the programming and to generate the Data which is automatically send to the CNC-PC when generated.
Does your BP 15 run in English or ....
Can you read german or do you know anyone ? Perhaps I could copy the manual or even the main parts, when there is no manual with your BP 15.

 

[miu2001]

My machine's based on OS9/68k. The NC programs are generated only with the software installed on it. But it's no WoodWop.
The language of course is german and despite that I understood with practice many words I do not know this language... neither my friens.
I've got only DTR instructions. So if there's no problem I'll take the manual with pleasure.
The main problem I've got is running AC programs on my machine.
Firstly I don't have the postprocessor for BP15 3s but for BP15 (standard postprocessor in AC) and it's not the same because it doesn't work with C axes. Seconadry if I have the postprocessor and generated NC program - what extension of file must it be that machine work correctly. And what is the way with copying those files into the machine - particularly where they must be putted in of OS file system.
Maybe there is better way with generating NC programs for example just like you said WoodWOP, but I don't have it.

 

[radocharr]

weeke bp 15 optimat HDD FALID

Hello,
We have a problem with weeke bp 15. We too much time dont use machine and
hardware on HDD are deleting.
So we need all software on HDD.
Maybe You have image (4 exp. xxx.iso) HDD.
I have weeke HDD connect in PC so i need only CD or DVD with hartware.
Thanks for Your help.

 

[LVMC]

Hello,
We bought a Weeke BP 15 used there are about six months and we have problems with the file vari2000 CMDS present in the folder. Could someone us make DOS format? We would also have a copy of the system OS9 and sub-programs: do you know if it is possible to find a link to download it?
Thanks a lot for your help.